# Alternative to makerverse **URL:** \ **Category:** Troubleshooting\ **Created:** [September 19, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377 "2023-09-19T19:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BillSchumacher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/billschumacher/32/22440_2.png) [@BillSchumacher](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/BillSchumacher)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/21 "2023-09-24T21:02:34Z")
You have to use digital calipers, a tape measure isn’t going to do it… I did my edge calibration probably 4 or 5 times to get it dialed in real good. Z axis can go negative and reverse the other direction if you overshoot the numbers. You have to use negative values as well depending on travel direction. Z Axis was probably the biggest pain, make sure you are measuring consistently from the same point flush against two edges. ---
**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/22 "2023-09-25T08:12:53Z")
for measuring the Z axis, you may be better off with a digital dial gauge instead of a caliper David Lang ---
**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/23 "2023-09-25T08:13:23Z")
and note that the sled does not need to be hanging from the chains to calibrate the Z. David Lang ---
**Author:** ![jasonbcox](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/jasonbcox/32/22127_2.png) [@jasonbcox](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/jasonbcox)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/24 "2023-09-25T16:06:19Z")
Thanks for the tips. My issue atm is not measuring accuracy, it’s that when it’s supposed to move 10mm it moves ~ 20mm, sometimes 200mm+ , and sometimes moves the wrong way ---
**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/25 "2023-09-25T19:37:16Z")
That’s an indication that the machine isn’t where it thinks it is. usually because the chains were removed from the sprockets. The machine doesn’t actually know where the sled is, it just knows how much it’s turned the motors since calibration, so if you ever detach the chains from the motors, it now no longer knows where it is (this is what the reset chain lengths does in the webcontrol/groundcontrl, it lets you have a marked link on the chain, put it in position, and then tell the machine where it is) David Lang ---
**Author:** ![lpala](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/lpala/32/22814_2.png) [@lpala](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/lpala)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/26 "2024-01-30T23:24:40Z")
Hi tj, is there any way to get the RPi build of 1.3.0? Luca ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/13edae/32.png) [@Jeremiad](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Jeremiad)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/27 "2024-02-05T04:38:21Z")
I’m sorry that I am late to the party, but have you figured this out? I have had similar issues on my M2 machine that was set up and working fine, and all of a sudden went wonky. I agree with @dlang that you probably need to reset the chains. I fought like hell not to, because it WAS working, but in the end, that is what fixed my problem. It’s a pain in the ass, but go back to square one, mark the chains and sprockets, and rehang it. ---
**Author:** ![sourcery](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/sourcery/32/22363_2.png) [@sourcery](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/sourcery)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/28 "2024-02-18T05:40:20Z")
Sorry for late replies… Makerhub (previously Makerverse) is now on v1.3.1. I’ll have an announcement shortly, however, the Pi version was just built and it had not been thoroughly tested on this update. Our releases are posted here: > **[Releases · sourceryltd/makerhub-releases](https://github.com/sourceryltd/makerhub-releases/releases)** > > Contribute to sourceryltd/makerhub-releases development by creating an account on GitHub. And the AppImage file in Makerhub 1.3.1 is what you are looking for. Thanks! —t.j. ---
**Author:** ![sourcery](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/sourcery/32/22363_2.png) [@sourcery](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/sourcery)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/29 "2024-02-18T05:46:13Z")
If you are still on Makerverse you might want to switch over to Makerhub. We are recommending to people that if you have a working version of Makerverse with your settings dialed in, you are fine and don’t upgrade. Should you need to upgrade (usually a cookie expired in the Makerverse forcing people to upgrade) then get the latest version of Makerhub here: > **[Releases · sourceryltd/makerhub-releases](https://github.com/sourceryltd/makerhub-releases/releases)** > > Contribute to sourceryltd/makerhub-releases development by creating an account on GitHub. There are four default machine profiles. If you have custom built machines, you may need to setup your own new machine profile. However you can get the settings in the hidden .makerverse file (normally in your home directory) and copy the variables to the .makerhub file created the first time you run Makerhub. If you continue to have issues, request a support ticket be opened by emailing [info@makermade.com](mailto:info@makermade.com) or on the website. Thanks! —t.j. ---
**Author:** ![sourcery](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/sourcery/32/22363_2.png) [@sourcery](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/sourcery)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/30 "2024-02-18T05:50:28Z")
Sorry - I spoke too soon. AppImage is for Linux/x64. Pi should be released soon because of some issues building in ARM platform that we are working on. Keep an eye on that link for release updates when we have Pi built and I’ll make an announcement when we have everything ready. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![jjseabra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9e8a1a/32.png) [@jjseabra](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/jjseabra)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/31 "2024-02-18T12:09:29Z")
Sorry but I am confused. I thought makermade and Maslow were different companies? If this forum is for Maslow, why is makermade software being advertised in here? Or am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/32 "2024-02-18T13:27:03Z")
there have been various iterations of makermade, and at different times, makermade has pointed people here for support (and we have done what we can to help them) since those machines need different software than the other maslow machines, it’s good to know about what’s avaiable. at one point, the makermade software required Internet check-in to work, and when that server went away, it broke a lot of people. The current software doesn’t need that, so is more free than what was out previously. David Lang ---
**Author:** ![bar](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bar/32/10_2.png) [@bar](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/bar)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/33 "2024-02-18T18:54:34Z")
They are a different company, but we try to keep our forums open to anyone and we’ll help anyone as best we can. ---
**Author:** ![sourcery](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/sourcery/32/22363_2.png) [@sourcery](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/sourcery)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/34 "2024-02-23T05:12:47Z")
As previously stated, Maslow CNC and Maker Made are different companies. There is some crossover as people find the Maslow forums because they have an M2 or upgraded their original Maslow kit with a Maker Made “Upgrade Kit”. Often times, people buy the original Maslow kit sold by Maker Made, and the documentation points to these forums. The original Maslow kit sold by Maker Made still uses Bar’s original Maslow design. Quite a few people here with the Upgraded kit or the M2 use Makerverse (rebranded as Makerhub) software. Maker Made will be discontinuing sales of the original Maslow kits once we run out of stock to avoid any further confusion between Maslow CNC and Maker Made. Thanks, –t.j. ---
**Author:** ![bar](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bar/32/10_2.png) [@bar](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/bar)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/35 "2024-02-23T16:42:00Z")
Will you be withdrawing your attempt to trademark the name Maslow CNC to prevent us from using it? ---
**Author:** ![ukdel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5daacb/32.png) [@ukdel](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/ukdel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/36 "2025-10-08T20:02:14Z")
any continuing support to makermade Jumpstart?.. can i use makerhub on it? ---
**Author:** ![sourcery](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/sourcery/32/22363_2.png) [@sourcery](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/sourcery)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/37 "2025-10-08T21:49:29Z")
Jumpstart is the original Maslow CNC… but with a sled. So the old Maslow Ground Control would be the best spot. Maker Made offers Upgrade Kits that can convert most components to M2. The best place to start would be here [Maslow Resources — MakerMade](https://makermade.com/pages/maslow-resources), however, the Ground Control software is [GitHub - MaslowCNC/GroundControl: This is the Ground Control software used to control the Maslow CNC Machine](https://github.com/MaslowCNC/GroundControl). Another company, East Bay, developed a cool software upgrade called Web Control, but I am currently unable to locate it quickly. Their Software page is here: [Ground Control Instructions](https://www.eastbaysource.com/index.php/user-guide/ground-control) As far as Makerhub. The short answer is no, Maslows/Jumpstarts will not work with Makerhub 1.1, 1.3, etc. The long answer is that in our expected version 2.0, which will be a hardware platform, Machine Profiles will be able to control many machines (not just Maker Made and Maslow machines). Makerhub will be the new hardware platform for CNC device control. A small production run of ~20 machines is about to be in the wild to some beta testers, but production will not be until mid to late 2026. ---
**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377/38 "2025-10-08T22:06:19Z")
TJ Weber wrote: > Another company, East Bay, developed a cool software upgrade called Web > Control, but I am currently unable to locate it quickly. Their Software page > is here: [Ground Control Instructions](https://www.eastbaysource.com/index.php/user-guide/ground-control) Webcontrol was a community development > **[Home](https://webcontrolcnc.github.io/WebControl/)** > > Help pages for WebControl David Lang [Previous page](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternative-to-makerverse/19377.md?page=1)