# Any last minute suggestions? **URL:** \ **Category:** No Judgement\ **Created:** [November 14, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062 "2017-11-14T05:43:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/21 "2017-11-15T03:33:48Z")
This is the bracing - it required 1 extra 2x4 x8ft. Notice it’s a Y shape with a cross brace at the top. The rest of the wood there shown is the 2x4 x 10ft 's cut for the final build. Once I’ve got to cut my sled I’ll document everything. The exact locations and the sizes. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/2/2508e3e4e4efd37e56a7d59cb90b07f8c3a05009.jpg) ](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/2/2508e3e4e4efd37e56a7d59cb90b07f8c3a05009.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/22 "2017-11-15T04:38:45Z")
Yes, both Logan (@pillageTHENburn) and I have posted links to our design files. If you can give me to the weekend, I’m going to see about doing a wiki page on the different designs. We have different frame designs, and different sled designs, and finding the details in 700+ thread forum threads is not easy. ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/23 "2017-11-15T06:08:56Z")
FYI - I think both kits should be posted in the swap meet area. ---
**Author:** ![pillageTHENburn](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/pillagethenburn/32/407_2.png) [@pillageTHENburn](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/pillageTHENburn)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/24 "2017-11-15T19:00:20Z")
[Here’s an early post with a chart](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/throwing-my-hat-in-the-sled-modification-ring/193/222) that shows the 4 original concepts and which measurements are important. The drawings on the chart are just for general reference, they are not to scale. It explains most of the critical relationships between different bars in the linkages. Here’s my original test drawing of a top mounted design: ![Top-mount linkage8-25-17](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/e/e24fc4104df27601606e2224be8ce3dc69879bb8.png) And [here’s David’s improvement on that design](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/throwing-my-hat-in-the-sled-modification-ring/193/257) by using cut-outs for chain clearance. Note that the actual lengths of the bars is not critical as long as they clear your router. The critical part is that they are _consistent_ with each other. The distance between the top hole and center hole in the vertical bars must equal the distance between the top and bottom mounting points on the sled _ **AND** _ the distance between the center hole and the chain mounting hole in the vertical bars must equal the distance between the bottom mounting point on the sled and the center of the router bit. The length of the “horizontal” bars will dictate how where that red dotted line is, this is the point that the tip of the chains will trace in space. All 4 horizontal bars must match each other. And here is my original 45˚ design drawing: ![45DegreeMount8-25-17](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/5/5a3fd3315375a65d22d3bff21c41feb90361e15e.png) Similar rules apply, parallel bars need to be the same length as each other. Lengthening the pivoting bars will move the red dotted line. Lengthening the two 45˚ bars (the bars that the chains attach to) will buy you more clearance for the router. The chain mounting point does not have to be in the center of the bar, but it must match the distances between the sled mounting points and the router bit (4.5" in this drawing). Both designs use the same principal of a parallelogram to trace a concentric circle around the router. The biggest mechanical difference between the two is probably that the joints in the top mounted design are under both compression and tension and joints in the 45˚ design are all under tension. ---
**Author:** ![vertex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/vertex/32/972_2.png) [@vertex](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/vertex)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/25 "2017-11-15T22:16:48Z")
I’m really curious how @Gero 's ‘triquad’ setup holds up to the test… ---
**Author:** ![icedub](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/icedub/32/246_2.png) [@icedub](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/icedub)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/26 "2017-11-16T13:43:41Z")
Next time you have this out on the driveway, would you mind posting a photo that shows this bracing head on? I’m about 1 day behind you in my build and I’d like to add some bracing as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/27 "2017-11-16T16:36:38Z")
@icedub This will be today provide it doesn’t rain. Yesterday had to be about getting the plumbing in the house happy again. I’m back at it today. ---
**Author:** ![mooselake](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/mooselake/32/6218_2.png) [@mooselake](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/mooselake)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/28 "2017-11-16T17:14:24Z")
Life was simpler when a bucket in the backyard was good enough. Those spouses and kids sure want a lot. Hundred year plus farmhouse here, know way more about plumbing than I expected to have to ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/29 "2017-11-16T22:14:52Z")
So some quick pictures of my progress - I will be writing up the information on the framing in a post later tonight. ![IMG_3322](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/f/fb2e9b55d3af05df0ad35a93e097a6cd46fa165a.jpg) ![IMG_3327](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/d/d648fbbf44977651a83f4c0d6964c54a662e4f82.jpg) ![IMG_3343](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/c/c558d4246543f9bef241d6edf33d1f6f462bacee.jpg) ![IMG_3359](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/f/f16ecdd2244556e57f20aa64b39eeaad266194ff.jpg) ![IMG_3341](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/5/595dbf8fe6fc34927ab9d972349bb0edc62247d7.jpg) I did a little cable management at the end. I need to counter sink some bolts and I need screws to mount the router. I also need to mount the Z axis. Progress is being made. ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/30 "2017-11-16T22:49:10Z")
Tip : if you have an Ikea close by - [http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20302332/](http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20302332/) $4.99 The 2nd hole saw is 2½" the same size as the hole in the Rigig router. ---
**Author:** ![vertex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/vertex/32/972_2.png) [@vertex](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/vertex)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/31 "2017-11-16T23:35:41Z")
BTW Does anyone have ugraded/‘pirated’ Ikea designs? Would be cool if we could improve upon the swedish designs and eventually share it back to them in an open repository. 🙂 I hear IKEA is in the process to let the customers scan their shopped items DIY style rendering jobs obsolete for the cashiers. So maybe we can make it more easy for them and just build some of their furniture at home. Then they don’t even have to produce it any more. O dear, I went sideways on the topic. BTW The $5 holesaw set is a great find. If I get near an Ikea i’ll try to remember this tip. My apologies ---
**Author:** ![Onelonedork](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/onelonedork/32/1358_2.png) [@Onelonedork](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Onelonedork)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/32 "2017-11-17T00:54:35Z")
![20171116_165104](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/9/923738ed92d7e081ef1f7dd0a5da117f4346ce57.jpg)My first Sled is on it’s way. ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/33 "2017-11-17T01:16:10Z")
for those looking for my tem frame bracing please see: > [@Alternate Temp Bracing](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/alternate-temp-bracing/1090): > > lets have a conversation about 2x4’s and fastening systems. For my non US peeps please alter to MM in your head. I’m going to toss a premise out. If anyone wishes to argue or dispute it I will be glad to participate as long as you create a new thread where we can debate it. For the sake of argument we are going ot say a 2 x 4 is resistant to bending more on the edge of the 2 x4 rather that the 4x2 edge due to bias. One of the figures below shows this - Further when you introduce… ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/34 "2017-11-17T01:26:53Z")
Tip number 2 - I’m going to use Bees Wax on my sled. I’m also considering replacing the bricks with water bottles for adjustability. ---
**Author:** ![Onelonedork](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/onelonedork/32/1358_2.png) [@Onelonedork](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Onelonedork)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/35 "2017-11-17T03:38:15Z")
I wonder if plastic skid plate might be worth investing in? ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/36 "2017-11-17T06:46:25Z")
Here is an idea - ~$15 > **[Mainstays 15" x 20" Poly Cutting Board - Walmart.com](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-15-x-20-Cutting-Board/13397990?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=5152&adid=22222222227000321518&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40345749872&wl4=aud-273067695102:pla-66011701985&wl5=9031144&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=13397990&wl13=5152&veh=sem)** > > Free 2-day shipping. Buy Mainstays 15" x 20" Poly Cutting Board at Walmart.com ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/37 "2017-11-17T06:53:46Z")
And for those of you on wood sleds- beeswax [http://www.truevalue.com//catalog/product.jsp?productId=51361&parentCategoryId=2&categoryId=36&subCategoryId=362&type=product&cid=gooshop&source=google\_pla&9gtype={ifsearch:search}{ifcontent:content}&9gkw={keyword}&9gad={creative}.1&9gpla={placement}&ctcampaign=4680&ctkwd={product\_id}&ctmatch=&ctcreative={Creative}&ctplacement=166187-44622122499](http://www.truevalue.com//catalog/product.jsp?productId=51361&parentCategoryId=2&categoryId=36&subCategoryId=362&type=product&cid=gooshop&source=google_pla&9gtype=%7Bifsearch:search%7D%7Bifcontent:content%7D&9gkw=%7Bkeyword%7D&9gad=%7Bcreative%7D.1&9gpla=%7Bplacement%7D&ctcampaign=4680&ctkwd=%7Bproduct_id%7D&ctmatch=&ctcreative=%7BCreative%7D&ctplacement=166187-44622122499) ---
**Author:** ![Jakrro](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/jakrro/32/924_2.png) [@Jakrro](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Jakrro)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/38 "2017-11-17T16:29:48Z")
I have someone cut off from laminated countertops that I’m going to make sled from ---
**Author:** ![vertex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/vertex/32/972_2.png) [@vertex](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/vertex)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/39 "2017-11-17T20:16:03Z")
> [@Onelonedork](#): > > My first Sled is on it’s way. what about mounting that router + z axis on the sled? 🙂 BTW what’s the typenumber of that one? ---
**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062/40 "2017-11-17T23:12:43Z")
So I made lots of progress today. I have the basic setup and calibration done. In theory it is ready to cut. Monday I will add the Z axis. Then switch to working on the final sled design. My linkage should be on it’s way today. I also have an idea for a triangular sled design. I did have about an hour of my day go out the window due to a faulty powerstrip. Once over that speed bump it was smooth sailing. I added a Parts/Shtuff holder & a Pencil holder. Once I’m done I’m writing a book. I have a grip of little tips to make it easier to build. ![IMG_3388](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/c/c2b2dcdfcef5671f24ff542ade8e97e29e3efd9e.jpg) ![IMG_3410](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/0/0b2d4d9a51c515b40a234b4f9340e8ebe0057d8a.jpg) ![IMG_3423](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/6/694367925d03d53fe53384cb4ca0333b9bf62e84.jpg) ![IMG_3421](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/c/ca4c27129aaffd52a94cf3cdedda8256da01d4f4.jpg) ![IMG_3392](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/7/7f72b362f7b5503f13e27d576c5ee95a49463d98.jpg) Enjoy! Thank you [Previous page](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/any-last-minute-suggestions/1062.md?page=3)