# Brushless Battery powered dewalt router on Maslow 4? **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware\ **Created:** [August 3, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120 "2023-08-03T12:51:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Charlotte\_NC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Charlotte\_NC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Charlotte_NC)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/1 "2023-08-03T12:51:26Z")
One of the biggest complaints newbies have with CNC machines powered by the dewalt palm routers is the brushes wear out and need to be replaced. When one is using the router by hand the motor starts not running smoothly and an experienced wood worker can hear the brushes are about done. However, when left on a cnc it is harder to tell. Newbies often put the speed at fastest and this makes the brushes wear out faster. So why not use a brushless router? Well because the only ones that are brusheless are the battery powered ones and it would suck to have the cut stop in the middle of a job. One can make an AC power adapter like this: [Cordless Power Tool Conversion 18VDC to 120/240VAC : 10 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables](https://www.instructables.com/Cordless-Power-Tool-Conversion-18VDC-to-120240VAC/) I also noticed the speeds for the battery powered dewalt are a bit fast? DIAL RPM 1… 16000 rpm 2… 17500 3 …19100 4 …20700 5 …22300 6 …23900 7 …25500 The makita battery powered router goes slower 10K to 30K RPM and costs less.but one will need a 2mm thick shim to make it fit the Maslow4 [Makita USA - Product Details -XTR01Z (makitatools.com)](https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/XTR01Z) ---
**Author:** ![pdw125](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pdw125](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/pdw125)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/2 "2023-08-03T22:40:52Z")
Also got the issue that the control board fits on top of the router (is physically attached) so can’t just be easily removed to do a battery swap. There is also some reasoning that the rotor fan provides some cooling to the control board which wouldn’t occur with the battery or adapter in the way. ---
**Author:** ![Charlotte\_NC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Charlotte\_NC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Charlotte_NC)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/3 "2023-08-03T22:59:15Z")
those are minor issues easily solved with velcro or some 3d printed holder IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![pdw125](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pdw125](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/pdw125)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/4 "2023-08-03T23:26:01Z")
That wouldn’t fix the cooling air flow issue ?? ---
**Author:** ![Jon\_Brohau](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/jon_brohau/32/12925_2.png) [@Jon\_Brohau](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Jon_Brohau)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/5 "2023-08-03T23:42:31Z")
I believe, correct me if wrong, Bar said somewhere that he had added a cooling fan and it wasn’t as dependent on the router for cooling anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Charlotte\_NC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Charlotte\_NC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Charlotte_NC)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/6 "2023-08-03T23:54:02Z")
yes the board has an internal colling fan. ---
**Author:** ![whyrock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f6c823/32.png) [@whyrock](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/whyrock)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/7 "2023-09-29T18:15:27Z")
Does anyone have the dimension specs of the DeWalt router? I am wanting to put a VFD spindle on mine and I cannot find any specs of the router to see if I can find a compatible sized spindle or make what size shim or other item I can make it fit and center it for when I receive the kit. ---
**Author:** ![mooselake](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/mooselake/32/6218_2.png) [@mooselake](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/mooselake)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/8 "2023-10-09T16:21:20Z")
If it’s just the diameter the DeWalt DWP611 is 69mm. I couldn’t find other dimensions on DeWalts site but perhaps the (search) fu was weak today ---
**Author:** ![whyrock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f6c823/32.png) [@whyrock](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/whyrock)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/9 "2023-10-23T17:52:18Z")
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Charlotte\_NC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Charlotte\_NC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Charlotte_NC)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/10 "2023-12-27T15:32:28Z")
I wouldnt’ waste your time searching for a 69mm VFD spindle. Pretty sure none of the exsist that are that small and better than the dewalt router. Remever this is a beginning machine. The expensive high quality VFD will physically not fit and the cheap VFD’s don’t offer any benefits at such slow speeds IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![whyrock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f6c823/32.png) [@whyrock](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/whyrock)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/11 "2023-12-27T16:15:03Z")
Thank you for the information. I was hoping there would be enough room to pick up a more powerful motor, but I am sure I will survive. Thanks all ---
**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/12 "2023-12-28T02:03:34Z")
unless you are using large diameter bits, motor power is unlikely to be the limiting factor, you are more likely to run into the belt motors not being powerful enough than the spindle motor not being powerful enough the reason to go with something different is more noise/vibration/runout than power. David Lang ---
**Author:** ![TimS](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/tims/32/17329_2.png) [@TimS](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/TimS)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/13 "2023-12-28T05:09:19Z")
I haven’t had any issues with my 500 watt spindle. I mostly use 1/4 diameter and below size bits. The spindle is 52 mm btw. ---
**Author:** ![Charlotte\_NC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Charlotte\_NC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Charlotte_NC)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/14 "2023-12-28T15:40:52Z")
the fact that a 500w spindle works is not my point. I’m saying economically they typically cost about the same aor more and they provide no real world benefit given how slow maslow cnc’s are run. ---
**Author:** ![TimS](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/tims/32/17329_2.png) [@TimS](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/TimS)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/15 "2023-12-28T17:07:44Z")
It cost me around 90$ so it is comparable to other routers. The reason I went this route was that it had a better speed range than the current routers on the market. It allowed me to better control my chip size and increase bit life. The slower feeds of the maslow classic require slower speeds for optimal bit life and chip size. It is also alot quieter than a router and has the option for speed control to be set via gcode (maslow firmware currently does not support). The new Kolbalt gas lower speeds than other routers. That would probably be my first pick for the M4. ---
**Author:** ![bar](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bar/32/10_2.png) [@bar](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/bar)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/brushless-battery-powered-dewalt-router-on-maslow-4/19120/16 "2023-12-28T17:33:29Z")
How is the noise on the spindle? I know that they are quieter at idle, but is it noticeably quieter while cutting?