# Frame design options

**URL:** <https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322>\
**Category:** Technical Details\
**Created:** [July 29, 2017, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322 "2017-07-29T10:34:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![iRoc999](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/iroc999/32/25_2.png) [@iRoc999](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/iRoc999)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/41 "2017-09-06T17:26:24Z")

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$150 really isn’t that bad. Specially for the rigidity it imparts.

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**Author:** ![servant74](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/servant74/32/162_2.png) [@servant74](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/servant74)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/42 "2017-09-13T00:36:31Z")

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> **[Pivoting Plywood Cart - FineWoodworking](https://www.finewoodworking.com/2011/10/27/pivoting-plywood-cart)**
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> Never wrestle with sheet goods again

I am thinking of building something like this for my frame, to allow helping with small shop space constraints. Allowing it to tip ‘vertically’ for storage between uses, and to ‘kick out’ for use. … Just a thought.

What do you think?

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**Author:** ![bdillahu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@bdillahu](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/bdillahu)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/43 "2017-09-13T00:52:58Z")

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Neat… I like that idea.

I considered just hinging mine to the wall/rafters, but decided I wanted the mobility of casters (and didn’t have a good spot for a permanent mount)

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**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/45 "2017-11-12T05:37:13Z")

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can you find an orbital sander that’s \<3.5" in diameter? if so, get someone to  
3d print a holder that lets you replace the router with the sander, you still  
have the Z axis to set tension with.

otherwise,a different sled that holds a different tool is easy enough to make.

David Lang

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**Author:** ![Zootalaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@Zootalaws](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Zootalaws)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/46 "2017-11-12T09:16:03Z")

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As ‘get someone to 3d print’ presents a whole raft of problems in itself, not least that there’s probably less than half-a-dozen printers in the country, at best, I had intended on a specific sled, or did you think I would make a router sled for a machine designed purely to sand?

Again, there must be some sort of problem with my communication that you so consistently get the wrong end of my stick.

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**Author:** ![mooselake](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/mooselake/32/6218_2.png) [@mooselake](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/mooselake)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/47 "2017-11-12T14:57:17Z")

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> [@dlang](#):
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> can you find an orbital sander that’s \<3.5" in diameter?

Air grinder and roloc style 2 or 3" disks, 3D print an adapter so it fits into the router base, extra points if it works with the z axis motor.

Being impatient I’d want to go with a 5 or 6 inch (or metric equivalent) sander and get it done faster. Or some long larger diameter steel pipe and rig up a drum sander and just do it in one pass, but that’s somewhat OT. Make some plywood gears to drive it sll.

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**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/48 "2017-11-13T04:18:41Z")

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somewhere here there is a post from someone who made a pen holder that fit in  
place of the router, complete with the notch that the Z axis grabs onto, just  
like it does to the router.

Air Grinder and orbital sander are very different things 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/bee/32/2160_2.png) [@Bee](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Bee)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/49 "2017-11-13T04:30:44Z")

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Pen-and-Pencil-Drawing info:

> **[MaslowCNC/Mechanics](https://github.com/MaslowCNC/Mechanics/wiki/Pen-and-Pencil-Drawing)**
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> Digital Design Files. Contribute to MaslowCNC/Mechanics development by creating an account on GitHub.

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**Author:** ![mooselake](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/mooselake/32/6218_2.png) [@mooselake](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/mooselake)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/50 "2017-11-13T15:12:31Z")

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> [@dlang](#):
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> Air Grinder and orbital sander are very different things 🙂

Yep, but the air grinder can hold the shank on one of those mini sanding disks mentioned above and get the surface speed up to compensate for the smaller diameter compared to a 5 or 6 inch (or metric equivalent) random orbital. I’d start with scrap and very fine grit.

Might work for engine turned patterns too. Wasn’t that @aluminumwelder ?

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**Author:** ![blurfl](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/blurfl/32/9_2.png) [@blurfl](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/blurfl)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/51 "2017-11-13T16:50:49Z")

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3 inch pneumatic orbital sanders are commonly available as well. Interesting to see how the torque of a grinder would play with the newer chain attachments…

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**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/52 "2017-11-13T19:04:27Z")

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orbital motion probably wouldn’t be that bad, pure circular motion will rotate  
the sled until it hits a limit, then rotates a little more until the side force  
on the chain that hit the limit matches the rotational friction against the  
metal.

for something line engine turning surface treatment, this could be ‘interesting’

someone needs to try this stuff. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/54 "2017-11-14T01:50:38Z")

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the issue with just spinning vs orbital is that the spinning is far more likely  
to dig into the material if you happen to remain in place a little too long, the  
orbital will produce less damage.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/55 "2017-11-14T01:52:56Z")

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by the way, can someone post a link to a good example of the 3" orbital someone  
mentioned above? I don’ thave the problem Zootalaws has with only getting B-B  
plywood, but I _really_ like the idea of being able to use the maslow to sand a  
large surface. g-code is simple enough that I can quickly write code to go over  
whatever size/shape lumber I have.

David Lang

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/56 "2017-11-14T02:07:02Z")

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> [@dlang](#):
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> 3" orbital

Try a search for ‘3 inch orbital pneumatic’ for many options. None cheap, though.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/57 "2017-11-14T02:16:50Z")

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> [@dlang](#):
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> orbital motion probably wouldn’t be that bad

The orbital sanders I’ve used are wobbly circular sanders so the force is still essentially in one direction of rotation. Wouldn’t want to keep either one in the same place very wrong, and it screams out for spindle power control

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/58 "2017-11-14T04:22:37Z")

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none of them have compact enough handles.

But it looks like you could use a dremel-type motor with something like

> **[Best DIY Dremel Sander Ever](https://www.instructables.com/id/Best-Dremel-Sander-Ever/)**
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> Best DIY Dremel Sander Ever: This is probably the cheapest and best Dremel sander you can make without any modification. It is really safe since its just soft plastic it is well balanced and most of all no weight at all so no unnecessary vibration.

David Lang

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/59 "2017-11-14T04:43:26Z")

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That’s a good simple solution. Not sure a Dremel-type tool would spin a 3 inch disc, but it wouldn’t cost much to find out 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/60 "2017-11-14T05:05:17Z")

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At one point they sold a 2.5" sander attachment (complete with uneven weight so  
that it wobbled around a bit)

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/61 "2017-11-14T05:47:34Z")

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[https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Mattel-Real-Power-Shop-Four-Tools-in-One-w-Manual-Project-Worksheet-/253241320648](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Mattel-Real-Power-Shop-Four-Tools-in-One-w-Manual-Project-Worksheet-/253241320648)

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/frame-design-options/322/63 "2017-11-22T06:48:30Z")

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Very nice design! Could you make a rough drawing with dimensions for the unistrut frame? I think I want to build mine with uni, to avoid warping and issues with 2x4’s… How many pieces at what length, including the the bottom bracing you mention wanting to add?

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