# Looking for "Alpha" Testers for Web-Based Ground Control

**URL:** <https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664>\
**Category:** Software\
**Created:** [November 11, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664 "2018-11-11T00:48:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![madgrizzle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/madgrizzle/32/1372_2.png) [@madgrizzle](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/madgrizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/21 "2018-12-07T20:43:53Z")

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Absolutely…I’ll pm you.

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**Author:** ![Gero](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/gero/32/17487_2.png) [@Gero](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Gero)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/22 "2018-12-26T18:03:00Z")

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> [@strebor](#):
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> What hardware is needed to test the web based GC?

I’ve confirmed today that it runs (without wifi) on

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/2X/b/b012836e03b43d25c2657877fc4f391c2e192884.jpeg)

During installation dockerd used up to 136% CPU 😲 (did not know there is more then 100%), idle 2 python tasks take ~57% and ~28% and running a cut those 2 peak around ~74% and ~42% (again more then 100 🤷‍♂️)  
However it’s running…

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**Author:** ![madgrizzle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/madgrizzle/32/1372_2.png) [@madgrizzle](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/madgrizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/23 "2018-12-26T18:43:19Z")

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So that’s a RPi 2B? Cool!

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**Author:** ![Gero](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/gero/32/17487_2.png) [@Gero](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Gero)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/24 "2018-12-26T18:45:54Z")

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Plugging in a usb wifi gives me a undervoltage warning, but will test other power supplies now.  
I have loads of question 🙂 . Where should I pile them up?

Edit:

> [@Gero](#):
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> undervoltage warning, but will test other power supplies

It was the ‘usb-wifi with amplifier’ causing the warning. A ‘normal’ usb-wifi works out of the box.  
Confirmed with i-pad ~2012 and HTC-One-M8.

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**Author:** ![madgrizzle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/madgrizzle/32/1372_2.png) [@madgrizzle](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/madgrizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/25 "2018-12-26T19:26:10Z")

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If it’s “issues” post to GitHub, but questions probably should go on the open beta thread.

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**Author:** ![mooselake](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/mooselake/32/6218_2.png) [@mooselake](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/mooselake)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/26 "2018-12-27T14:28:36Z")

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Back in the wildly optimistic full hype phase of 3D printing the late Printrbot introduced it’s all in one Printrboard, and we had lenghty bloviations (preserved somewhere in the depths of [printrbottalk.com](http://printrbottalk.com)) on integrated vs plug in drivers while waiting for the Kickstarter to start kicking.

History proved that some driver chips would fry and effectively toast the board, selling another board for PB, but it worked better than predicted. Getting the price down to $69 from around $120 (all usd) reduced the pain slightly for those who lost the chip frying lottery.

One recurring issue was micro USB connectors which were only held down by solder and easy to pull loose. USB-A, with their mechanical bond to the PCB faired much better in later boards. I’m again way behind forum reading (those palm trees don’t fertilize themselves, and milky soup pools just don’t appeal to the houseguests; finally getting some use from Doc Berry’s chemistry classes) and don’t recall what this board uses, but the chunky guys are way better

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**Author:** ![Jatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@Jatt](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Jatt)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/27 "2018-12-29T23:27:35Z")

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On \*nix based systems, 100% cpu = 1 core. The raspberry pi 2B has a quad core 900 mhz cpu, so has up to 400% available. (In short bursts only, if you tried to run all cores at max for any length of time, they would quickly start thermal throttling, due to the lack of a heatsink / cooling)

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/28 "2019-07-08T11:42:39Z")

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I’m setting up Web Ground Control on a Pi Zero W and I don’t have an HDMI display to connect to it with. Is it possible to install Web Ground Control completely headless?

The step which has me worried is:

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When WebMC comes up, click “Start WebControl” it will download the latest docker image
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**Author:** ![madgrizzle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/madgrizzle/32/1372_2.png) [@madgrizzle](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/madgrizzle)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/29 "2019-07-08T12:11:01Z")

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The ‘active’ thread is here:

> [@WebControl Open Beta](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/webcontrol-open-beta/8234):
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> After a lot of testing, I’ve decided to go ahead and release WebControl as an open beta project. A bit of a belated present. As very brief overview, WebControl is a web-based version of Ground Control primarily designed to run on a Raspberry Pi in a headless environment (headless meaning no screen/keyboard attached). There’s no reason that it won’t run on Windows, MacOS, etc. but the focus right now is on the RPi. The simplest way to get started is to use a fresh SD card and download the pre-…

But to specifically answer your question, it is designed to be headless. The “Start WebControl” is a button on the WebMCP application web page that you reach from whatever browser/computer you are using to talk to RPi. The address for WebMCP is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:5001. You can start/stop/update WebControl (which will be running on port 5000) from WebMCP. WebMCP will also report the python “print” statements similar to what you would see in the console when running groundcontrol.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-web-based-ground-control/7664/30 "2019-07-08T12:24:04Z")

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> [@madgrizzle](#):
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> The ‘active’ thread is here:

❤ ❤ ❤ I don’t know how I missed that. That makes a lot of sense.

> [@madgrizzle](#):
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> The “Start WebControl” is a button on the WebMCP application web page that you reach from whatever browser/computer you are using to talk to RPi.

Thank you!!

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