# My ongoing build

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**Created:** [June 17, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906 "2023-06-17T19:28:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![MatthiasDM](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/matthiasdm/32/22137_2.png) [@MatthiasDM](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/MatthiasDM)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/1 "2023-06-17T19:28:27Z")

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So my Maslow from EastBaySource has been lying around here for half a year, but now I’m finally taking the time to build it. 😊

Also, I wanted my build to occupy the least space possible, so I made a table where I can tilt the Maslow at the right angle. Please refer to the picture below.

 ![maslow1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/3X/5/2/52b82a7194930b9efe45d9bdc39f0c73b57cf404.jpeg)

Regarding the z-axis, I am attempting to use a slightly modified version of the z-axis found in the MPCNC project. I will keep you updated!

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**Author:** ![Orob](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/orob/32/16344_2.png) [@Orob](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/Orob)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/2 "2023-06-17T21:41:46Z")

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I’m interested in your mpcnc z axis for the maslow. I have a primo also and I can see that you do as well.

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**Author:** ![MatthiasDM](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/matthiasdm/32/22137_2.png) [@MatthiasDM](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/MatthiasDM)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/3 "2023-06-19T19:37:49Z")

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Well the first cut with my maslow is a fact. You can see i use a very rudimentary version of the MPCNC z-axis. (to be refined now i can cut stuff 🙂 )

 ![z-axis-maslow-mpcnc](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/3X/5/e/5e60457b4dedc6962dc178713fa9af4ff54a6bd5.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/4 "2023-06-20T14:04:53Z")

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Nice. It is a core without all the bearings and mounts. You mounted the Maslow motor on the top. Your z axis has a pitch of 8?

How did you mount the core to the sled and how long did you cut the EMT for the vertical?

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**Author:** ![MatthiasDM](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/matthiasdm/32/22137_2.png) [@MatthiasDM](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/MatthiasDM)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/5 "2023-06-23T13:08:30Z")

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The core has all the bearings necessary to move the z-axis. The EMT is about 5 inches, actually just used the leftover after the cut for my mpcnc. Core is now just mounted using the screw holes provided, but i am working on a modified core design to more securily attach it to the sled.

 ![IMG-20230623-WA0005](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/3X/f/2/f2a8feb54ad24fa0443a061a76686c82b400f6f3.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TimS](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/tims/32/17329_2.png) [@TimS](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/TimS)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/6 "2023-06-23T15:09:01Z")

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Interesting idea with the sled enclosure.

You are going to have chain angle issues and the force will not be directed at the bits center.

The chains move to keep the force/angle on the sleds center point. As the sled moves the angles change greatly. That will make your cuts inaccurate.

The first design had stationary chain mounts on the sled. It will cut, but the further you move away from center the more problems you will have.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/7 "2023-06-23T16:51:23Z")

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Is this because of the weight distribution of the sled? (The weights near the bottom corners?)

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**Author:** ![dlang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/dlang/32/859_2.png) [@dlang](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/dlang)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/8 "2023-06-23T16:54:22Z")

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the first iteration attempted to calculate the tilt of the sled (treating it as  
a T with the chains at the top corners and the bit at the bottom), but it proved  
to be a problem that was too hard for us to figure out (and we found it also  
depended on the cutting forces involved)

the ring/linkage approaches solved this by simplifying the math to have the  
chains always in a line with the bit.

take a look at the top mount linkage thread, that could be scaled pretty well  
(although you have to watch how steep the angles get at the bottom corners and  
if you clear them with your linkage).

David Lang

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/9 "2023-06-23T17:30:22Z")

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> Is this because of the weight distribution of the sled? (The weights near the bottom corners?)

No.

If you have a ring/linkage that lets the sled rotate freely and keep the chains  
pointed directly at the bit to make the math simple (see my prior post), the  
torque of the motor can cause the sled to rotate until it hits the limit of the  
allowed movement. By adding weight to the bottom, you allow gravity to counter  
the rotation.

(now that I think about it, I don’t know if anyone ever tried a ring for one  
chain and a fixed mount for the other, with the weight on the sled being  
symmetrical, in theory that could work)

David Lang

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/10 "2023-06-23T18:15:53Z")

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Thanks,

I think there is a misunderstanding here, i actually have a ring that leds the sled rotate freely. But maybe the holes in the sides of the casing where the chain goes through need to be slightly bigger .

 ![IMG_20230623_200310](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/3X/b/2/b2c67e6e23a051e93d3d1f961ffbe3e03e747936.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/11 "2023-06-23T18:27:46Z")

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If you drive your sled to the 2 lower corners, your chains might rub on those openings. If they do, the chain will bend to reach the ring and center of motor, throwing off the math. I don’t think that there’s any angle possible to let you enclose the system and allowing for free movement. Even going with a pantograph (ala metal maslow) would be difficult to pull off (the lengths of the rods would have to be quite large).

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/12 "2023-06-23T18:35:13Z")

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the angles of the chains go from ~10 degrees from vertical (bottom near corner)  
to ~10 degrees from horizontal (top far corner) so about 70 degrees of movement.  
That requires a large slot to allow for the full range of movement.

now, if you are willing to sacrafice work area, you can reduce the needed  
angles.

David Lang

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/13 "2023-06-23T18:44:23Z")

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the 45 linkage would have similar problems as the arms attach to the sled and  
swing through the same angle.

the top mount linkage has the advantage that all the movement can be done above  
the top of the sled/housing (it just needs stiffer arms to make sure it doesn’t  
flex too much)

David Lang

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/14 "2023-06-23T19:40:25Z")

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Thanks for all replies , i’ll perhaps make some slots to allow more movement, and think about how i might make the case more compact.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/15 "2023-09-03T18:11:03Z")

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So i have made some improvements since last time, mainly the encapsulation of the z axis and router. See picture below. Together with the vacuum hose this makes an almost dust free experience with noise levels below the painful level 😅

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/maslowcnc/original/3X/a/0/a015711b9b00d173bf6055f2fd505a868dc02b31.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TimS](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.maslowcnc.com/tims/32/17329_2.png) [@TimS](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/u/TimS)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/16 "2023-09-03T22:21:44Z")

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Are the bricks missing from the picture or are you just not using them. You will run into accuracy issues without a weighted sled

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/my-ongoing-build/18906/17 "2023-09-04T03:59:29Z")

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Hi Tim, yes i still need to add the weights 🙂
