Straight line curves down at top of the sheet (solved)

Troubleshooting
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Any idea why a straight line at the the top would sag down, to spike up at the end?
FW & GC 1.07.
The gcode has a clear vertical XY coordinate to the left (cut counter-clockwise). .nc and log are in the .zip leftcut.zip (235.2 KB)

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Part 2 had 3 different runs on this error for each pass (seen in second ply pic), first a higher error, then a lower error, then the final error between the 2 others. On part 3 the error was constant with all 3 passes. It seems like with the left move the motors are not coordinated.

Any input welcome.

There is a similar post (straight line arched) by @clintloggins here Velocity slow down and arced cut

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Any takers? bumpbump!
ā€œAny takers?ā€ was only 11, so I added ā€˜bumpbump!ā€™ to make it over 20.

Update:
I cut part 2 out of the gcode and made it a single piece.
Same thing happens, this time a bit flatter curve than the past.

Question: Would I find a ā€˜stallā€™ message in the log or terminal?
Iā€™m surely stretching the limits on what the Maslow can lift and the cut is at the top, so Iā€™m wondering.

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Huston we have problem ā€¦

Thank you

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Have you tried a roll back to say V 1.04 to see if it goes away?

Thank you

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Thanks, can run that with 1.04, perhaps also a try without bricks. 2 tests make it worth to go back to the workshop. Thanks for the heads up.

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This is very strange. Based on your chain sag correction value, your sled doesnā€™t look to be overly heavy. Any idea of a ballpark of your sled weight?

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15.9 kg = 35.0535 pounds is what the bathroom scale said.

Where did you get that from ? :thinking:

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I pulled it from your logs. Looks like you went through the calibration process and got 27.81713676?

Interesting, nearly 16kg/35lbs is getting heavy. I donā€™t have enough experience to say if this is an issue or not though.

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Iā€™ve seen ā€˜stallā€™ massages in the past, but not for a long time. I was thinking that spitting them out would be a chance to narrow this thing in. Not testing any more tonight, but taking the bricks off will give some feedback tomorrow night.

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Looks like the left hand chain has jumped the teeth on the sprocket.
Any snagging on the chain links? , are the links free to move?,
try calibrating the chain length but have the both ends free, allowing the chain to move freely,
once chain is finished calibrating the length , attach the chain at the motor mount and sledge,
as if the chain binds on the links it forces a jump
also add some repair washers to the guide pulley to keep the chain running true from the sprockets

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I know that sound very well. I was with the Maslow all the time, no chain jumps, plus I have 3 surrounding cuts in 3 passes that I can put ruler on. They are at 90Ā°.

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I agree, this doesnā€™t seem like a chain skip, otherwise we would be seeing similar issues across the entire bed. It could be a kinematics problem, but then I wouldnā€™t expect it to ride up to the proper level at the end of the cut. My first guess would be a motor stall/power issue, especially if itā€™s at the top of the board, but didnā€™t see any messages about it. Very strange indeed.

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Since Iā€™ll not be able to test, lets agree that before 24 hours a new test was done with less weight. That should narrow things down. Thanks for the heads up guys. Same place, same time tomorrow :kissing_heart:

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Could your linkage kit be sticking, causing the sled to be at maximum rotation before breaking free again to let the router bit get back on track?

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Good point! Let me dig in my GF videos, if she caught that part I would be able to see it.

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Now that a thought about it more, I think, no.
Part 2 has 3 passes, first is the top cut, second the lowest and third in the middle. Sticking and releasing would be an explanation for that.
Part 3 does all 3 passes at the same cut and error. I would expect a sticking kit to be more random.

Edit: The parts are symmetrical to the middle of the sheet. So I would expect a mirroring rather then a copy.

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Definitely something going on in software.

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To help diagnose the problem, run it again without a router bit and the router turned off (that way the bit is not in play). Iā€™d wiggle the sled a bit as it progresses from right to left to see if that changes anything. Just a thought as it would help eliminate linkage kit as the source of the problemā€¦ and would be safer as the router is off.

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I ran it twice yesterday, similar to what you wrote.
Weird thing is, the velocity is around 30 then drops to 14-15 when the arc begins.

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if the feed rate is reduced, does it still arc?

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