Turtle Clamp (non-split clamp design)

Why turtle clamp? Fresh off the printer, the cutout looks like a turtle to me:

Files here:

Intro

Stiffness of the clamps is something that I’ve been keen on improving for a while. I touched on it a bit as part of my I linear rails-ed my Maslow build. 20mm thick clamps seemed like an obvious place to start and gave me a significant improvement, but there was a lot more I wanted to do.

This is what I came up with:

There were a few points I wanted to address:

  • No split in the clamp.
  • 20mm but minimising Z-travel loss.
  • Full compatibility with original Maslow.

No split in the clamp

This is like the main point of it. The split in the clamp has always bothered me for two reasons - as a source of flex, and a source of imprecision. With the 20mm design I came up with for the linear rail build I did my best to minimise flex with a big zig-zag double bolt, and that was ok, but still allowed more flex than I was happy with.

For the linear rail the bigger issue is it messes with the geometry. Tightening and loosening the clamp pulls everything out of square, even if it’s by a very small amount. For anything to do with linear rails that’s a bit of a PITA.

I could run through the many wild and whacky clamping methods I tried, most of which were good at applying force, but only to the point they ripped themselves apart, but it’s not that interesting. The four-clamp, triangle-edged design gives me the clamping force I want, centred, with easy access for adding / removing the router with the Maslow fully built. It even keeps compatibility with the button pusher.

20mm but minimising Z-travel loss

The 20mm thickness combined with no split is what makes it very stiff, but another downside of the design I used in the linear rail build is I lost a chunk of Z-travel. That isn’t a massive deal for me given the bits I personally use, but I wanted to go back and minimise it if possible.

The main focus was the bottom clamp to get the router as low as possible at Z-stop.

From:


you can see that there are cutouts on the Z-stepper arms and little cutouts on the rail arms, for the motors and vacuum plate bolts respectively.

It lets it sit flush to the vaccuum plate:

And gets me to the point of 7-8mm off flat for the bottom of the collet at Z-stop:

Full compatibility with original Maslow

I can’t really show this without teasing the next thing I’m currently in the final stages of refining, but another motivation was wanting it to be standalone (ie a user can just replace the original clamps), but also to work with a linear-bearing-not-linear-rail variation of my linear rail build that minimises extra weight / new parts:

While it looks quite different from the original Maslow 4.1, the important bit to note is it’s using the original linear bearings / plastic risers so the clamps can be used as the only mod to a stock Malsow if wanted.

Build details

Printing the main clamp with 5 layer top and bottom and 5 wall loops, along with 40% adaptive cubic infill gives high stiffness. It can be dialled back to 3 wall loops and 30% adaptive cubic infill (still 5 wall loops) and that saves about 20g a clamp and barely impacts stiffness. The inserts I printed at 100% infill.

It uses m3 slip-nuts / hammerhead nuts / t-nuts - the 2020 profile nuts that turn and grip, combined with 10mm plate washers and 14/16mm cap head bolts (all of which I believe should be widely available everywhere):





Notes:

  • It expects 2mm worth of 10mm plate washers, I just used 2 * 1mm adhesive ones.
  • Although I say 14mm or 16mm bolts, it should work with anything up to 20mm without fouling on the rotating arms, even if the bolt heads stick out slightly.
  • You need to use longer bolts to hold on the posts - I use 25mm with locknuts as it’s a size I use on other projects.
  • Everything should be flush when the router is inserted, it’s reasonably tight tolerances so that each insert only needs to slide about half a mm to clamp.
  • There is no need to crank it down until you damage it, it holds with a lot of force just from being snug.
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Very cool. Thank you for sharing. Will be interested in trying it. Nice write up.

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Nice bit of lateral thinking, would appreciate it if you could put the step or stl files here or https://forums.maslowcnc.com/t/maslow-4-3d-printed-parts-thread
I like the title Turtle Clamp

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This is super awesome! The clamping mechanism was something that I went through a lot of iteration on how to make it work so I appreciate a good design!

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Thanks - I’m trying doing it as a PR to the new place we are gathering things, I’ll post a link in here and that usual 3D printed thread once it’s in though :slight_smile:

It’s an interesting problem to try and solve for sure - having to be both structural and adjustable is tricky. It’s interesting the possibilities additive manufacturing gives you over molded components too - not quite sure how i’d get it to work in a mass production design!

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Now uploaded here:

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Did a little update with some QOL improvements:

1.1 Update

  • The depth of the bolt area has been standardised so they all use 10mm of bolt-thread.
    • This means 15+mm bolts will work if re-using the standard posts, 25mm with some other of my designs.
    • Which in turn means a conversion of only the clamps just needs 28 x 16mm cap head screws.
  • Added variants:
    • NoBaseCutoutClamp - doesn’t have the cutouts for getting the router as flat to the base as possible. Can still be used as a Top or Base clamp.
    • Top-NoBaseCutoutNoZCutoutClamp - has no cutouts that aren’t needed for a Top Clamp - can only be used for the top.
    • Base-HexReinforcedClamp - Has some extra re-inforcement that only works for a Base Clamp (the motors would foul if it was a Top).
    • Base-SolidReinforcedClamp - As HexReinforced, but solid.
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@ian_ab pointed out that rotating the clamps and button pusher hole could help with the 240V dewalt vertical power lead problem (I think combined with a different control board mount to keep the board axis aligned).

@ian_ab - I think this should be right (and it can be mirrored if I got the direction wrong):

Offset Turtle Clamp 1.2 Anticlockwise.stl (1013.5 KB)

It’s untested, but given I use the 240V myself and just hadn’t thought of that :man_facepalming: I’ll print it and try it in the next day or two, and I have a few tweaks I was going to roll into a 1.2 version soon that I’ll include it as a variant in.

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